Read my Previous Post on the Kingsbury, Arizona Sites first.
Phoenix Memorial Veteran's Cemetery. The supervisor came out to talk to the people filming and told them , the plastic vaults aka "FEMA Coffins" were used when the conditions were too muddy for the cement vaults.
Phoenix gets 7 inches of rainfall per year.
26/5/09 -Update on The Phoenix Memorial Veterans Cememtary.
Mass Graves PDF
Screenshot of one of the pages from the above PDF 
Showing posts with label Coffins Liners. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Coffins Liners. Show all posts
Saturday, 27 June 2009
Arizona Phoenix - New Memorial Cemetary Update. & Mass Grave Documents..
NEW FEMA Coffins in INDIANA? (Kingsbury) - Underground Bunkers Constructed. Vantage Products - Phoenix Arizona Vaults/Liners - Covered Up
I stumbled across this and found it interesting. I am more interested in these underground bunkers as opposed to the Vault liners.
There is definitely something fishy going on however in regards to the burial vaults, unless someone goes on a trek for us and takes pictures of this new location, I have major doubts that what is shown is indeed burial vaults.
But the underground bunkers give pause for thought. (I know I know, I can't seem to drop this subject and I keep coming back to it, but when my red flags and BS meter start going off I jump on the bandwagon)
Concrete Burial Vaults For Veterans & Cemeteries
What bothers me about the concrete burial vaults being constructed all over the country and the coffin liners is the fact that our troops are being transported home from Iraq , so are the British troops. So why do we need so many Veteran graves? and Veteran grave Cemeteries?
FEMA Coffins in Kingsbury Indiana and NEW Underground FEMA Bunkers on a Closed Military Base.
GOOGLE EARTH
New FEMA Coffins in Kingsbury
Location: 41°31'08.48"N 86°41'24.36"W
New FEMA Underground Bunkers:
Location: 41°30'20.58"N 86°36'34.79"W
OLD Kingsbury Bunkers
Location: 41°31'22.54"N 86°39'56.15"W
Known FEMA Coffins in Georgia
Location: 33°33'57.36"N 83°29'6.26"W
This video boggles my mind, I cannot believe I didn't notice this last year!!! *smacks head*
This was apparently 2005. Now! If Vantage made casket/coffin liners for Veterans and the public as was told to me via email by the assistant director of Vantage. Where are the child size liners? where are those? Where are the pre ordered caskets?
I haven't seen any stacked up for the customers, All I have seen are acres and acres of OVERSIZED liners. I have seen NO child size casket liners. Nor ANY undersized Liners, only large ones that can hold 3/4 people, they look too large to hold even the largest coffin.
Vantage make custom liners for the public and for cemeteries / churches as well as for Veterans, this is confirmed information. You do the math.
This Picture From The Vantage Website Shows Undersized Vaults For Children, so why are fields of these vaults all oversized vaults, and why are they ALL BLACK In the videos and there are NO different coloured casket liners? Vantage have admitted to owning the land, and the liners, so why are there Large Black Liners and no variations?
The video above explains that the land was leased by the government, and they were given 3 years to set up temporary morgues around the country.
"we found the website that these vaults & their lids were made,
The lids on the website are rounded, but at the actual storage site they are flat, they were reinforced, what can this mean? you can stack them on top of each other"
You also have concrete vaults & Morgues being constructed in 3 known locations/Cities
Phoenix Arizona & LA (Phoenix National Memorial Cemetery shown uncovered in this video and no sign of coffin liners. However....
UPDATE Phoenix National Memorial Cemetery - Black coffins/vaults found Stacked in + Concrete Vaults NOW COVERED OVER!
More On Phoenix Arizona Cemetary - Signs - Crematoriam
Houston Texas (Temporary Morgues?)Uncovered
Houston Update - Covered Over
See My Previous Posts On Vantage
Land Info
My Phonecall To Vantage
Polyguard FEMA Links
Vantage Employee Talks
Thursday, 1 January 2009
500,000 Coffins - Land Info Coincidence? DOD?
Ok tonight I did a little searching here is what I found out.
2003 - Greenfield Equipment Co INC have been doing some business with the Dept. of Defense, how much business?
$19,391 to be exact, you can see that here
What have they been buying?
| Major Product or Service Code | 37: Agricultural machinery and equipment |
| Product or Service Code | 3750: Gardening Implements and Tools |
| DoD Program, System, or Equipment Code | 1000 |
| DoD Claimant Program Code | C9E |
| Principal NAICS Code | 333112: Lawn and Garden Tractor and Home Lawn and Garden Equipment Manufacturing |
| Major Agency | Dept. of Defense |
| Modified Contracting Agency | 2100: ARMY, Department of the (except Corps of Engineers Civil Program Financing) |
How do I know this was the amount? Because I searched fedspending I know the date to be 2003 when this business was contracted.
The Polyguard Vaults were there in 2002 that was when the VA dept started contracting with Polyguard
Where is Greenfield Equipment Located?
1350 Lions Club Rd # D, Madison, GA
And where are the coffins located? 33.566135, -83.485279
yep that's right Lions Club RD.
Hmmm right near to each other right?
Have a look at this screenshot if you are too lazy to search google :P (A) is where Greenfield Equipment Co INC is located.
However.... When I try to get to this location on google maps ( I did a search for directions to the exact location) ie: where the coffins are located
Guess what?
The road is listed as "Unknown Road"
See this screenshot
Now let's talk about POWER - Georgia Power or Southern Company INC as it's also known as.
Well well they are also Located here:
Georgia Power
1391 Lions Club Road
Madison GA 30650
Who did they do business with? FEMA, DEPT OF DEFENSE, HOMELAND SECURITY too
See here
Take a Look at the screenshot or here
Where is one of the locations of business completed?
30905 - Fort Gordon Military Reservation
GREENSOUTH EQUIPMENT INCORPORATED fedspending
Location : 1350D Lions Club Road - Madison, GA 30650
Top 5 Products or Services Sold
| Miscellaneous Vehicular Components | $2,716 |
| Truck and Tractor Attachments | $598 |
Top 5 Contracting Agencies Purchasing from Contractor(s)
| VETERANS AFFAIRS, Department of | $3,314 |
Top 10 Contractors
| GREENSOUTH EQUIPMENT INCORPORATED | $3,314 |
B & W Waste INC
B & W Waste Inc
1240 Lions Club Rd
Madison, GA 30650
706-342-8900
It's a recycling center and waste removal service.
Just LOOK at all that Land these coffins are on! wouldn't the government NEED farming Equipment in order to make a start on a FEMA camp here?
I don't think that it's a coincidence that the Dept Of Defense is doing business with a Farming Equipment company right in the vicinity of where the Polyguard vaults are located, now..... We know for a FACT the Government paid over $2 million for Polyguard Vaults.
You have concrete & plumbing businesses in Lions Club Rd, so many convenient supplies for a camp.
So can you honestly tell me nothing is going on here? No coffins for US citizens? there are tons of businesses in Lions Club Rd GA, that are doing business with different departments of the US Government.
I found all this just by googling. It's public domain knowledge, you just need to put 2 & 2 together whilst researching.
And here is the rest of it. Read more!
Vantage - Monsanto Connection.
Earlier I spoke of my phone call with Vantage Products who make Burial Vaults in the Covington area, and how the receptionists demeanor seemed to change as soon as I started asking about the coffins in Madison GA, Read that post here
Well here are a few more connections to Vantage.
On their website they indicate the following:
Vantage Products Corporations was founded in 1978. The plant was a research and development facility of Hercules, Inc. before being purchased.
Hercules, Inc. is a multi-national/global corporation that is primarily a chemical company, but also has a number of subsidiaries and is part of the Aqualon Group as is Vantage Products Hercules spun off from DuPont Corporation in the early 1900's so you know that they are still really a subsidiary of DuPont, not a competitor). Hercules had major defense contracts with the US government. This is their US website
Here are their worldwide locations
The Chief Legal Officer for Hercules worked 30 years for Monsanto in various high positions:
Richard G. Dahlen
Chief Legal Officer
Mr. Dahlen received his B.A. degree from the University of Arkansas in 1961, and his J.D. degree from Harvard Law School in 1964. He attended the Executive Program, University of California, Berkeley, in 1991.
Mr. Dahlen joined Hercules on July 1, 1996, as Vice President, Law and General Counsel, after serving 30 years with Monsanto Company in St. Louis, Missouri. While at Monsanto, he held a number of positions including Vice President and General Counsel, The Chemical Group; Associate General Counsel, Monsanto Company; Director of Corporate Development, Monsanto Company; and Director of Law, Monsanto Agricultural Products Company.
Following his retirement in 1999, Mr. Dahlen returned to Hercules in a consulting role in October 2000 and assumed his current position in June 2001.
Mr. Dahlen is a member of the Delaware Bar Association, Missouri Bar Association, Arkansas Bar Association, and the American Bar Association.
Here is a fact sheet on Hercules
No company would produce that kind of inventory to sit outside for an indefinite period of time without advance payment. Since this Vantage has connections to Hercules which has connections to DuPont, Monsanto, aerospace, weapons manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, etc., all connected to government, the fact that these are coffins is not a good sign, especially in Georgia where the Georgia Guidestones have been erected. Most people are not buried in these plastic containers that I know of; all funerals I have been to people are buried in decorative wooden caskets so the idea that this company would produce this kind of inventory for possible future orders, or that average people are buying these types of caskets is nonsense. This is just downright ominous.
An anonymous source who recently checked out the area (2 days ago to be exact) has stated
" The walmart employee had no idea they was there. A older man and lady came out and we asked them and he said this:
Those are casket liners. They been there for a little over 10 years. The government got into a riff over taxes on the liners and they just put them there and never came back for them.
I got the answers i went looking for though. The casket liners are not privately owned but owned by the government. That is what i went after to find out. That is what I got.
Editing to add: they are made of fiberglass"
Ashland
Note that the Board of Directors for Ashland include former top US govt. employees - The former head of the Red Cross who became infamous during 911. This is a cherry job, 1/2 million salary a year, given often to wives of prominant politicians.
Link
Ashland has now acquired Hercules which owned the plant that Vantage now occupies.
Link
Ashland to Acquire Hercules
$3.3 Billion Transaction Creates Major, Global Specialty Chemicals Company
COVINGTON, Ky. & WILMINGTON, Del.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--July 11, 2008--
Ashland Inc. (NYSE: ASH) and Hercules Inc. (NYSE: HPC) today announced that they have entered into a definitive merger agreement under which Ashland would acquire all of the outstanding shares of Hercules for $18.60 per share in cash and 0.093 of a share of Ashland common stock for each share of Hercules common stock. The total transaction value is approximately $3.3 billion, or $23.01 per Hercules share based on Ashland's July 10 closing stock price and including $0.7 billion of net assumed debt. The transaction, which would create a major, global specialty chemicals company, is expected to close by the end of calendar 2008.
Ashland Inc. (NYSE: ASH), a diversified, global chemical company, provides quality products, services and solutions to customers in more than 100 countries. A FORTUNE 500 company, it operates through four divisions: Ashland Performance Materials, Ashland Distribution, Valvoline and Ashland Water Technologies. To learn more about Ashland, visit Ashland.com
Hercules manufactures and markets chemical specialties globally for making a variety of products for home, office and industrial markets. For more information, visit the company's website at Herc.com
Connections with Cargill.
Ashland and Cargill to Combine Talents for Biobased Chemical Joint Venture
First product: renewable propylene glycol
COVINGTON, Ky., and MINNEAPOLIS, May 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Ashland Inc. (NYSE: ASH) and Cargill have agreed in principle to create a new joint venture devoted solely to the development and production of biobased chemicals. The parties intend for the new stand-alone entity to become a leading global supplier of chemicals from renewable sources.
The venture's first product will be propylene glycol (PG). Using both licensed and proprietary technology, the joint venture will produce high-grade propylene glycol from glycerin, an abundant co-product of biodiesel production. The joint venture expects to provide global manufacturing and marketing of biobased PG, starting with a 65,000 metric ton-per-year plant at a yet-to-be-finalized location in Europe.
With a 50-50 ownership structure, Cargill and Ashland will bring to the new venture their unique technology, innovation and expertise in bioprocessing, along with chemical formulation, supply chain management and market analysis. The venture anticipates a combined initial capital investment in the range of $80 million to $100 million. Details on the name, leadership and development plans are expected to be announced later in 2007.
"We believe the chemical market has reached a tipping point where biobased and petroleum-based options are both desired by the market and practical to produce. To be in a position where Ashland can offer biobased specialty chemical products in the future, we need to help foster the creation of biobased basic chemicals now," said Walter Solomon, vice president and chief growth officer, Ashland Inc. "We are creating our future and we've found a terrific partner in Cargill to do so."
Since Vantage does not post it's board of directors, etc. and just took over the old Hercules plant facility, it smacks of a government funded corporation. The website is pretty generic and doesn't have a lot of info, only that it produces these plastic coffins.
It is amazing how all these companies are intertwined.
Vantage - Covington - Warehouse.
Google: 960 Almon Road Covington GA 30014
Original Research Of 500,000 Coffins - Mrs Musselwhite.
Original Pictures. By Mrs Musslewhite. Taken in 2002.
Mark Spann (Mrd Musselwhite's Ex Husband) speaks...
Here's what i recall learning. I did my own count/estimate and came up with roughly 800,000 units, though I'm sure there's a wide margin of error. As I recall there were 54 units each to a pallet, three stacks on each pallet, 18 units in a stack. Each unit does indeed measure 3'x3'x7', which I believe is precisely the dimensions of a casket liner. But please note that, where you to take a notion to put adult human bodies directly into one of these WITHOUT a casket, there's plenty of room for, oh say 3 or 4 adults and room for a couple of kids to boot, you know about enough room for the averagde 5 person family.
Right next to this property, bordering it to the south, is a small industrial strip building, and a John Deere sales and repair shop. I asked a couple of the fella's working in the shop what they knew of them, and they jokingly said "That's what Uncle Sam's gonna stuff us in when the BIG BANG comes"....referring to what they thought was an imminent terrorist bio or nuke attack, although when I pressed them for a serious reply, they said they were shipped there by FEMA a few years earlier and were told they were to be used in case a major hurricane hit the Savannah area. They believed they were there as kind of as a knee-jerk reaction to FEMA's poor showing in the wake of Hurricane Andrew in the early 90's. When I asked about who the property belonged to, they understood the property was being leased to FEMA by a well known local businessman and property owner (don't recall the name), who leased the property to FEMA shortly after he purchased it, I think they said that was back in 1997 or 1999....not sure. Maybe someone can do some sleuthing like maybe a property title search and see what turns up.
I'm a bit fuzzy on my research into who manufactured these things for FEMA, but if I'm not mistaken I think I figured out it was DOW or HALIBURTON, or one of the major Defense suppliers, possibly under s subsidiary name. Sorry that's kind of vague and fuzzy info, but Its been nearly 6 years back I did my research on the Madison FEMA coffins.....hope you guys keep up the good work....and thanks to the person who took the video and posted it on YOUTUBE!
Mark Spann sent me an email link and embedded a video. 3 minutes into this video shows a connection with FEMA coffins "placed" in Georgia.
Screenshots For Those Unable To Watch The Video - Please Click To Enlarge. 
Mrs MusselWhite (Original Photographer of the Coffins/Vaults) speaks
I emailed FEMA last week with the pictures taken in 2002 and they did respond with where were these containers located, see below:
from FEMA-Recovery-Correspondence-Unit ema-recovery-correspondence-unit@dhs.gov>
to theresamusselwhite@gmail.com,
date Jan 3, 2008 11:58 AM
subject FW: Assistance in identification
mailed-by dhs.gov
hide details Jan 3 (4 days ago)
Reply
Dear Ms. Musselwhite:
Thank you for your e-mail dated December 31, 2007, to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) asking for identification of items shown in a series of photographs you sent.
In order to answer your question, we would need to know where the photos were taken. Should you wish to provide the information, we shall do our best to provide the answer.
I hope this information is helpful.
Sincerely,
Janice Sosebee
FEMA Disaster Assistance Directorate
From: theresa musselwhite [mailto:theresamusselwhite@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 7:48 AM
To: FEMA-Correspondence-Unit,
Subject: Assistance in identification
Are these FEMA coffins?
theresa musselwhite
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Jan 3 (4 days ago)
theresa musselwhite
Madison, Georgia
Jan 3 (4 days ago)
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theresa musselwhite to FEMA-Recovery-.
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Madison, Georgia
- Show quoted text -
I have emailed Freedom Radio several times to no avail as well as other organizations and agencies to help identify these containers.
As of today, i have not heard back from FEMA. Please check out Rabbit Holes - Searching for Alice and my last post.
Musselwhite also states:
Through Freedom Radio, FEMA acknowledged they were, in fact, body containments back in 2002 in cash of biological terrorist attack. these body containments hold more than one dead body and used in cremation.
Point: there are surveillance camers all around the perimeter of atlanta going and coming excepting hwy 20 going toward madison
Afton, WY and Covington, GA check out this post
Source
Crematorium Plans....
In Lawrenceville Georgia they are complaining of a crematory being built in their back yard according to my niece and in hartwell georgia they have built a refractory. look up the word refractory. also, in hartwell enormous power poles and lines have been erected in the last 6 months. the refractory is not in operation.
Cremation Society of the South, which has locations in Marietta and Stockbridge, plans to open a crematory at the corner of U.S. 78 and Abington Drive in Snellville.
Renovations are under way at the building there - a basic brick ranch that was once a residence but now is zoned for offices and professional use.
It is a 47 min trip from Madison, GA where the Vaults are Located see co ordinates: 33°33'57.36"N 83°29'6.26"W
Click On Map For Larger View - Madison GA - Crematorium. 
My Phonecall To Vantage RE: 500,000 Coffin Liners.
I telephoned Vantage Products, to find out if the Coffins in Madison GA belonged to them.
Polyguard who the Veterans Affairs Dept did business with in buying Thermoplastic Vaults, said the vaults in Madison belonged to another competitor company in the same area.
Well Vantage Products is a 32 min drive from the Madison Vaults.
So I phoned them.
Here is PolyGuard's Email pertaining to the competitor.
Polyguard and Co.
Afton, WY 83110
1-800-654-1067
RE: infowars.com Cryptogon.com disclose.tv and all other paranoid sites!!!
To Whom this May Concern:
As you all know, death is one of those issues that we all fear yet we all will go through it at some time in our life and we have most all experienced a loved one passing away. In fact there is as average of 2.5 million deaths occurring each year. Some are cremated and some are buried. Most burials require an outside burial container to go around the casket to keep the ground from settling and the aesthetics of the cemetery beautiful with the least amount of maintenance needed. Until about 30 years or so ago, the only outside burial containers available were Concrete or wooden boxes. Because of modern technology, there are now other alternatives to concrete such as fiberglass and polymers (plastic).
I am not sure how Polyguard became associated with the burial vaults that are stored in Georgia. Those vaults are manufactured by our competitors in Georgia. However, the Manufacturers own the property they are stored on and there is no big secret surrounding the vaults. Because of manufacturing costs and the ability to manufacture 2 parts probably every 2 – 5 minutes, once the process begins, to be cost effective you manufacture until your raw products are gone. This creates inventory that can be rotated and used as needed.
In the funeral service industry, there is a program called “pre-need” which allows families to go to a funeral home or cemetery and pre-pay for their funeral merchandise and services. I would guess that most of these vaults have been pre-sold and they are meeting the requirement of the storage program set forth by the manufacturing company and the Federal Trade Commission who governs funeral service. Because we do not own the vaults and are not the manufacturers of the vaults, I cannot tell you those numbers for sure.
Many of you keep referencing a patent for a cremation container. This product never even made it to the market as far as I know. If it did, it is not the same product that is being stored at the manufacturers storage facility in Georgia. DO NOT CONFUSE THE TWO ITEMS!!!!
If this information does not help ease your mind, you are welcome to call us.
Debbie Sainz
Polyguard & Co., LLC
My Phone call to Vantage Products
I spoke to a very polite lady , I asked if I could speak to someone about their Vaults and products, She informed me that I would need to speak to one of the owners of the company but they were giving a tour to children and the general public so it wasn't possible for me to talk to them but she could ask them to call me back:
I not being satisfied with that asked her the question instead:
This was the last part of the phonecall, (I should of recorded it)
Me: Well I wonder if you can help me with this? or know the answer to my question?
Receptionist: Sure Ma'am
Me: I was wondering if Vantage Products have any other locations in which their products (caskets mainly) are stored? or is it just in Covington?
Receptionist: hmm, ahh, im going to put you through to someone else and you can leave a message on their machine.
From her demeanor at the beginning of the phone call to how she reacted to my question , I got the impression she was trying to get me off the phone.
Suffice to say I didn't leave a message on the answerphone , but if anyone else can call back, please do it because Polyguard has stated in an email that the vaults located in Georgia are not theirs but Vantage Products stock.
Telephone Vantage Here: - 770-788-0136
My Phonecall To Vantage RE: 500,000 Coffin Liners.
I telephoned Vantage Products, to find out if the Coffins in Madison GA belonged to them.
Polyguard who the Veterans Affairs Dept did business with in buying Thermoplastic Vaults, said the vaults in Madison belonged to another competitor company in the same area.
Well Vantage Products is a 32 min drive from the Madison Vaults.
So I phoned them.
Here is PolyGuard's Email pertaining to the competitor.
Polyguard and Co.
Afton, WY 83110
1-800-654-1067
RE: infowars.com Cryptogon.com disclose.tv and all other paranoid sites!!!
To Whom this May Concern:
As you all know, death is one of those issues that we all fear yet we all will go through it at some time in our life and we have most all experienced a loved one passing away. In fact there is as average of 2.5 million deaths occurring each year. Some are cremated and some are buried. Most burials require an outside burial container to go around the casket to keep the ground from settling and the aesthetics of the cemetery beautiful with the least amount of maintenance needed. Until about 30 years or so ago, the only outside burial containers available were Concrete or wooden boxes. Because of modern technology, there are now other alternatives to concrete such as fiberglass and polymers (plastic).
I am not sure how Polyguard became associated with the burial vaults that are stored in Georgia. Those vaults are manufactured by our competitors in Georgia. However, the Manufacturers own the property they are stored on and there is no big secret surrounding the vaults. Because of manufacturing costs and the ability to manufacture 2 parts probably every 2 – 5 minutes, once the process begins, to be cost effective you manufacture until your raw products are gone. This creates inventory that can be rotated and used as needed.
In the funeral service industry, there is a program called “pre-need” which allows families to go to a funeral home or cemetery and pre-pay for their funeral merchandise and services. I would guess that most of these vaults have been pre-sold and they are meeting the requirement of the storage program set forth by the manufacturing company and the Federal Trade Commission who governs funeral service. Because we do not own the vaults and are not the manufacturers of the vaults, I cannot tell you those numbers for sure.
Many of you keep referencing a patent for a cremation container. This product never even made it to the market as far as I know. If it did, it is not the same product that is being stored at the manufacturers storage facility in Georgia. DO NOT CONFUSE THE TWO ITEMS!!!!
If this information does not help ease your mind, you are welcome to call us.
Debbie Sainz
Polyguard & Co., LLC
My Phone call to Vantage Products
I spoke to a very polite lady , I asked if I could speak to someone about their Vaults and products, She informed me that I would need to speak to one of the owners of the company but they were giving a tour to children and the general public so it wasn't possible for me to talk to them but she could ask them to call me back:
I not being satisfied with that asked her the question instead:
This was the last part of the phonecall, (I should of recorded it)
Me: Well I wonder if you can help me with this? or know the answer to my question?
Receptionist: Sure Ma'am
Me: I was wondering if Vantage Products have any other locations in which their products (caskets mainly) are stored? or is it just in Covington?
Receptionist: hmm, ahh, im going to put you through to someone else and you can leave a message on their machine.
From her demeanor at the beginning of the phone call to how she reacted to my question , I got the impression she was trying to get me off the phone.
Suffice to say I didn't leave a message on the answerphone , but if anyone else can call back, please do it because Polyguard has stated in an email that the vaults located in Georgia are not theirs but Vantage Products stock.
Telephone Vantage Here: - 770-788-0136
Vantage - Polyguard - FEMA - Coffins Link.
Polygaurd Co. sent this rather vague and unprofessional response:
Polyguard and Co.
Afton, WY 83110
1-800-654-1067
RE: infowars.com Cryptogon.com disclose.tv and all other paranoid sites!!!
To Whom this May Concern:
As you all know, death is one of those issues that we all fear yet we all will go through it at some time in our life and we have most all experienced a loved one passing away. In fact there is as average of 2.5 million deaths occurring each year. Some are cremated and some are buried. Most burials require an outside burial container to go around the casket to keep the ground from settling and the aesthetics of the cemetery beautiful with the least amount of maintenance needed. Until about 30 years or so ago, the only outside burial containers available were Concrete or wooden boxes. Because of modern technology, there are now other alternatives to concrete such as fiberglass and polymers (plastic).
I am not sure how Polyguard became associated with the burial vaults that are stored in Georgia. Those vaults are manufactured by our competitors in Georgia. However, the Manufacturers own the property they are stored on and there is no big secret surrounding the vaults. Because of manufacturing costs and the ability to manufacture 2 parts probably every 2 – 5 minutes, once the process begins, to be cost effective you manufacture until your raw products are gone. This creates inventory that can be rotated and used as needed.
In the funeral service industry, there is a program called “pre-need” which allows families to go to a funeral home or cemetery and pre-pay for their funeral merchandise and services. I would guess that most of these vaults have been pre-sold and they are meeting the requirement of the storage program set forth by the manufacturing company and the Federal Trade Commission who governs funeral service. Because we do not own the vaults and are not the manufacturers of the vaults, I cannot tell you those numbers for sure.
Many of you keep referencing a patent for a cremation container. This product never even made it to the market as far as I know. If it did, it is not the same product that is being stored at the manufacturers storage facility in Georgia. DO NOT CONFUSE THE TWO ITEMS!!!!
If this information does not help ease your mind, you are welcome to call us.
Debbie Sainz
Polyguard & Co., LLC
The name of their competitor is Vantage Products Corp. in Covington, Georgia. I checked their website, and they do indeed make plastic coffins similar to those in the video. Here is their web Address
Polyguard has had contracts with the Veterans Affairs Dept totalling over 2 millino dollars this we know from Fedspending.org
Now, Polyguard basically claims that the Coffins depicted in the video are merely 'back stock', and that Vantage OWNS the land they are on. How they would know that for certain is unclear. However, this is what I found on Vantage's own website:
"Vantage is now located and headquartered in a new, state-of-the-art 100,000 square foot facility in Covington, Georgia. The facility is home to two new injection molding machines, robotic painting systems, R & D, as well as ample storage and shipping facilities."
If Vantage has "ample storage and shipping facilities" in Covington, why would they need to store their merchandise in the middle of an open field in Madison? According to the producers of the video, the private owners of the land would not give any explanation to why the coffins were there.
Why all the secrecy? Why not simply state that the coffins belong to Vantage Corp, and they are there for storage? Also, why would Vantage store what looks to be a huge portion of their valuable stock in the middle of a field far from their shipping and distribution facility? And why would it sit there undisturbed for years without being rotated, diminished, or replenished?
None of these questions have so far been answered. We at Neithercorp certainly hope that there is no insidious purpose to these coffins, and that all is well, but until we get some clear and honest answers, our suspicions will remain.
If you Google map the location of Vantage Products Corporation...it will show that they have thousands of these things stored at their plant. Maybe they have overflow storage in the field down the road?
Google: 960 Almon Road Covington GA 30014
Google Maps Image Of Vantage Products Corp - Click To Enlarge.
Some interesting information on Vantage Corporation and their connections. On their website they indicate the following:
Vantage Products Corporations was founded in 1978. The plant was a research and development facility of Hercules, Inc. before being purchased.
Hercules, Inc. is a multi-national/global cororation that is primarily a chemical company, but also has a number of subsidiaries and is part of the Aqualon Group as is Vantage Products Hercules spun off from DuPont Corporation in the early 1900's so you know that they are still really a subsidiary of DuPont, not a competitor). Hercules had major defense contracts with the US government. This is their US website
Here are their worldwide locations
The Chief Legal Officer for Hercules worked 30 years for Monsanto in various high positions:
Richard G. Dahlen
Chief Legal Officer
Mr. Dahlen received his B.A. degree from the University of Arkansas in 1961, and his J.D. degree from Harvard Law School in 1964. He attended the Executive Program, University of California, Berkeley, in 1991.
Mr. Dahlen joined Hercules on July 1, 1996, as Vice President, Law and General Counsel, after serving 30 years with Monsanto Company in St. Louis, Missouri. While at Monsanto, he held a number of positions including Vice President and General Counsel, The Chemical Group; Associate General Counsel, Monsanto Company; Director of Corporate Development, Monsanto Company; and Director of Law, Monsanto Agricultural Products Company.
Following his retirement in 1999, Mr. Dahlen returned to Hercules in a consulting role in October 2000 and assumed his current position in June 2001.
Mr. Dahlen is a member of the Delaware Bar Association, Missouri Bar Association, Arkansas Bar Association, and the American Bar Association.
Here is a fact sheet on Hercules
No company would produce that kind of inventory to sit outside for an indefinite period of time without advance payment. Since this Vantage has connections to Hercules which has connections to DuPont, Monsanto, aerospace, weapons manufacturing, pharmaceuticals, etc., all connected to government, the fact that these are coffins is not a good sign, especially in Georgia where the Georgia Guidestones have been erected
Google Monsanto
Veterans Only , Coffin Liners, Yet Stocked/Unused Since 2002.
"Apparently, the VA offers next of kin of veterans the option to buy Polyguard liners for burial.
Quote
Vault or Grave Liner: A Polyguard liner for casket burial is provided by the State (HSVC) for veterans only (subject to change upon availability of funds). Although vault or grave liners are not required, the next of kin may purchase a Polyguard liner from HSVC at cost for casket burial of dependents. Urn vaults may be purchased through a mortuary of your choice."
Source Hawaii VA Dept
So if these coffins are ONLY for VETERANS! why have they been stock piled since 2002, and not been used?
And it says they are not even REQUIRED!
So if they are not Required For Veterans, who are they required for?
Polyguard who make the coffin liners, have since 2000 had only ONE contract/Buyer and that is The Veteran Affairs Dept USA, the amounts of money from 2005-2007 is astronomical. Check out my other post on the finances of 2005-2007 Here
Director Vantage Products Says: "Land Belongs To Us"
I received an email from Vantage Products, They have informed me they have LEASED the land where the burial vaults are stored. Please READ my previous post on Vantage Products being connected to Hercules, Monsanto & the Government
The Director of the company insists there is only 50,000 of these in Madison, umm has he seen HOW MANY are there!! way more than 50,000
A forum posters thoughts on reading the email from Mr Lacy
"Also, according to Lacy, those coffins are stored for prearranged burials. If so, why has the stock been sitting there for years without being depleted, replenished, or even moved around? Is he trying to tell us that so far not a single buyer has died in that time and the stock is just languishing? Also, he claims there are only 50,000 Vaults. You can count the stacks from Google Earth and the You Tube Videos and see there are way more than that. Mr. Lacy has a few more questions to answer I think...................."
Eyewitnesses and people who have been to the site in Madison recently have stated there are around 500,000 , the videos and google earth satellite pictures show more than 50,000
Mr Lacy admits the land is leased by Vantage Products but doesn't admit the burial vaults belong to them, he only insinuates this.
Something doesn't add up here.
Here is the email
From: MLacy@VantageProducts.com
Subject: Fw: Enquiry
Date: 29 July 2008 02:48:44 BDT
To: fakeplasticmedia@gmail.com
Mizzie,
The property on Lions Club Road in Madison, Georgia is leased by Vantage Products.
The product stored on the property are standard burial vaults, please see
our web page for information on this product - www.vantageproducts.com
The majority of cemeteries across the United States require the use of a
burial vault when a body is interred. The use of a burial vault, plastic or
concrete, is to prevent the collapse of the ground in the cemetery
and to protect the casket placed inside.
In the funeral and/or death care industry there is a common practice of
people making their funeral arrangements prior to death. Many people
like to make their own selections for the casket and burial vaults that will
be used at the time of their death. Once this selection has been made
the local funeral home that has made the arrangements can purchase the
burial vault product from Vantage Products and we will store it for them
until that person dies.
We maintain detailed records of ownership of the products and require a
certificate of ownership to be sent to us before products can be released.
Additionally, we are annually audited by several states including Georgia
to insure that we have all of the products that our records indicate and
that are on file with each of the participating states.
These products are not owned by any one individual person, company or the
government. Additionally, there are only about 50,000 vaults in storage in
Madison, no where near the quantity that is being discussed openly on
the net.
In the United States there are approximately 1,300,000 deaths each year.
Of those deaths there are about 900,000 in ground burials preformed
every year. Only a small percentage of those people have pre arranged
there burial.
I hope this has answered you questions. Please do not hesitate to contact
me if you have additional questions.
Cordially,
Michael A. Lacy
Vice President of Operations
Vantage Products Corporation
960 Almon Road
Covington, GA 30014
770-788-0136 Office
770-788-0361 Fax
404-545-8022 Cell
mlacy@vantageproducts.com
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500,000 Coffins/Vaults. On FEMA Land?
Before I start yakking, bear in mind, this is not an "absolute" I am not 100% sure, and I am not saying this is fact, what I am saying is..... It's an avenue that needs attention.
So today I am browsing Google Earth, I type in
* FEMA Camps
* Clicked on "User Created Content"
And I had a good old browse. There are massive processing complexes, Detention facilities, So many different ones/types.
What I noticed was how similar the layouts, plots of land, buildings, etc looked to the plots of land where the Polyguard Coffins are situated in.
I also kept in mind the fact that after all the phone calls to companies surrounding the Madison Plot in Georgia, no-one could seem to find out who owned the plot of land. I have heard nothing in regards to the Ennis & Afton locations.
Musselwhite who took the original pictures in Madison back in 2002 says:
"This particular location was sold by a local whom would not divulge the purchasers. I intended to research Superior Court Records but never got around to doing so.
I did email these pictures to Freedom Radio up North and was told they were FEMA body containers in preparation of possible biological attack.
* Afton, Wyoming - 42.750018, -110.936857
* Madison, Georgia - 33°33'57.36"N 83°29'6.26"W
* Ennis, Texas - 32.320277, -96.608030 - Please use Yahoo Maps for this one - Higher Quality.
I have taken some screenshots, but I would like all of you! my readers......to go to Google Earth and "Pull the magic out of your ass" and compare the locations. Or go watch some of the FEMA Camp Video's first then the Madison, GA Video's
Ok so let's start with Ennis in Texas - And the screenshot - Please Click On The Images To See The Full-Size.
Most FEMA concentration Camps are said to be situated (and from what I have seen to be true) near railway lines.
In Ennis, Texas - The Coffin plot seems to be situated next to one.
Ennis, TX again
The Entire Location Of Ennis Texas.
This Is The Satellite Image Of The Rail Tracks Next To The Complex.
Here Is A FEMA Camp In Florida - Camp Krone. 
Let me know what you find out guys: fakeplasticmedia@gmail.com (as always you will get full credit or you can opt to stay anonymous)
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